The godly dad proclaims God’s Word regularly

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Intro:

Welcome to the Father On Purpose Podcast, featuring author and ministry leader, Kent Evans, and business executive and military veteran, Lawson Brown. This is a show for you, Dad if you want to be a godly and intentional father. Unfortunately, you’ve turned to these two knuckleheads for help. Let us know how that works out for you. Before we begin, remember this, you are not a father on accident, go be a father on purpose. Please welcome your hosts, Kent and Lawson.

 

Kent Evans:

Lawson, one of the things we’ve got to do with our families is we’ve got to be anchoring them in the word of God. That’s what we’re going to talk about on today’s show. How have you been my friend?

 

Lawson Brown:

I was going to say you jumped right in. Hello.

 

Kent Evans:

Man, you told me to last time.

 

Lawson Brown:

It’s good to see you.

 

Kent Evans:

Last time, you’re like, “Man, we got to get to the point quicker. We’re going to lose these guys. They’re busy.”

 

Lawson Brown:

Hello Kent. How you doing buddy?

 

Kent Evans:

Man, I have no major complaints. I just am coming back after a four-day trip chaperoning high school, juniors, and seniors on a trip. Actually, no, no. I got to say it was 12 of them. They are a blast. I genuinely had a ton of fun.

 

Lawson Brown:

That’s awesome.

 

Kent Evans:

Other than hassling them after lights out, other than hassling them a time or two after lights out, that was probably our biggest issue on the trip was they stayed up late and were a little rowdy. So I’m a little sleepy!

 

Lawson Brown:

What was it for? What was this trip for?

 

Kent Evans:

The school my son goes to, they do a couple … I’ll call them semi-educational trips where you’re supposed to experience at some kind of culture or something like that. We went to the lovely mountains of Asheville, North Carolina. We went on a hike up Mount Pisgah. The road was closed so we had to go up little Mount Pisgah, instead of the real one. I don’t know why they have two mountains. One’s called Mount … Okay, anyway. Then we went to the Biltmore and spent a whole day on the property at the Biltmore Estate and saw the Vanderbilt home. Very cool. If you’ve never been to Asheville, North Carolina, it’s a great stop.

 

Lawson Brown:

It is. Were you the only dad with those guys?

 

Kent Evans:

No. There were four adults. Two guys and two women. I know all these parents. We hang out and we had a blast. Yeah. It was a great time.

 

Lawson Brown:

It obviously wasn’t a manhood journey. Tough it out.

 

Kent Evans:

It’s a school function.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah.

 

Kent Evans:

Yeah, yeah. We learned a lot. Here’s the quiz … Just while I’m at it, here’s the quiz for Dad Listening. How many acres? You got to answer this question Lawson. How many acres do you think the current Biltmore property encompasses? The total acreage.

 

Lawson Brown:

I know there’s the big castle, the house that he built, and then there’s the garden.

 

Kent Evans:

You’re stalling. You’re stalling. You’re trying to buy time. It’s not going to work.

 

Lawson Brown:

I know. I’m waiting on Google. It’s not coming up.

 

Kent Evans:

I need a number.

 

Lawson Brown:

I can’t type it that fast! I would say …

 

Kent Evans:

What’s your guess?

 

Lawson Brown:

I would say 150.

 

Kent Evans:

Okay. Good guess. Very good guess. 8,000.

 

Lawson Brown:

Ga.

 

Kent Evans:

8,000. You were only off by mathematically plus or minus 8,000, you were off. Your guess isn’t even a rounding error.

 

Lawson Brown:

Holy crap. But I literally thought it was the house and that garden area.

 

Kent Evans:

You come in the gate and you’re still a 10 or 12-minute drive back to the castle area. Then you’re 10 more minutes to get off the property if you kept going straight.

 

Lawson Brown:

It’s been a long time.

 

Kent Evans:

Oh bro, it’s massive. Today, we’re talking about something … What’s interesting about that, I’m going to try a really heavy-handed segue here. What’s very interesting about that is … This is true. I did notice, I’ve been there two or three times. There’s a terrace you can stand on and look over some of the gardens and stuff. It’s super beautiful. I noticed, as I leaned on the terrace, it’s made of concrete, or stone. I noticed several cracks in the terrace. Then I leaned one way and I could see down a wall, not of the actual house, but of the terrace outside. I could see a wall. The wall, I’m sure, was built to be a straight line, a straight wall, but now, after … It was built in late 1800s, so it’s over 120 years old. The wall is a little zigzaggy, because after 120 years of rain, and wind, and the ground settling, that wall is not a straight wall anymore. It’s a little bendy. Even where I was leaning, I was careful where I was leaning, not that it was going to fall over, but there was a half-inch fissure in the railing where I was leaning. You could see it very plain. What it reminded me of was even as magnificent, and interesting, and massive, and very cool the Biltmore Estate, is it is in the process of slowly eroding and decaying because it is not permanent. It’s not a permanent fixture. It is a built environment that given enough time will erode and crumble to some degree, maybe completely, maybe completely. It just reminded me … I did have a moment. This is on Wednesday of this week, a few days ago. I did have this moment where I sat there and thought, “Man, the largest residential home in America, it’s toured by I don’t know how many hundreds of thousands of people a year, is in the process of decaying.” I did think of this. This is not … I’m not making this up just for the sake of the segue, but I thought … Man, you know what’s eternal? You know what’s eternal? God says his word is eternal. He says heaven and earth will pass away, but my word will remain. My word will remain. God says my word will not return void or return empty. His word is eternal. As a dad, I want to anchor my kids in something that’s not shifting sand, and not going to erode over time. One of the things that we’ve got to anchor our families in is God’s word. That’s the theme of the chapter in our book, Bring Your Hammer on Nehemiah. That’s the theme of chapter 22, where we wrote about chapters 11 and so forth in the book of Nehemiah because Nehemiah took God’s word very seriously. Very seriously.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah. I learned a lot out of this chapter. This is the eighth of 10 chapters that we’re doing in this mini-series on the book you and Eric wrote, Bring Your Hammer. Early in this first part, he wrote something that I actually kind of relate to. If I’m being honest, the reason I asked you about your trip and was it a manhood journey, were other dads, was I just wondered, and it doesn’t have to be about this trip that you just took, but in your conversations with other fathers, how common is it to have what Eric’s experience was where he had a dad who was uber into sports and that’s just what they talked about. It consumed their conversations, versus, as he’s reflecting back in the first part of this chapter, chapter 22, on those conversations versus hearing from his father, as often as he’s now understanding that he wants to do as a dad about scripture and the word and what you just said. That’s why I asked you about that trip, but just in general, forget about the trip, but when you’re talking to other dads, is Eric’s experience, it’s a similar experience to my own. I didn’t become a Christian until I was 30. We did have young baby kids, but I was learning as a Christian. I was unpacking some stuff and replacing it with my new faith. I wasn’t an experienced 10 plus year grown man with new kids that I had a foundation upon which to the father from. Something he wrote in here is, this is part of the issue with the lack of involvement from dads at church, is the fact that we tend to compartmentalize I highlighted the word compartmentalize, all the responsibilities of raising our kids. In other words, here’s what he writes. School teachers take care of their educational needs, doctors care for their illnesses, trainers can help them get stronger or work on their swing or whatever, and pastors will teach them the Bible. That’s their jobs. If, as a dad, and that’s where I could relate, especially earlier on, I did rely on the pastor. I relied on putting the girls in their little kid Bible studies. We’d go to church and they’d go to the kids’ room. I was like, “They’re getting taught.” As I grew in my faith, I began to understand and take on more of that responsibility myself. Anyway, I just wondered, all that said, how common is it for Eric’s story to be the theme among dads?

 

Kent Evans:

Man, extremely. I would say the vast majority. If I talked to … Well, actually back when we were starting Manhood Journey, there were, I don’t know, 15 of us in a room. We were just whiteboarding ideas. Should we do a Bible study? Should we do an annual retreat? That kind of thing. There were about 15. I ended up … I remember asking the guys in the room, “Hey, do me a favor. Raise your hand if your dad spiritually mentored you at any level.” I think three of the 15 hands went up. The dozen, vast majority. I’ve done that since. I’ve done that in rooms I might be speaking to a hundred people and I’ll just do a quick audience poll. It’s way less than 20%, on average. 80% of the dads are functionally fathering, but they’re not spiritually leading.

 

Lawson Brown:

Say that again, functionally fathering but [crosstalk 00:09:54].

 

Kent Evans:

I would say 80% of the dads are functionally fathering. They got a job, and they cut the grass, and they take the car to get the oil changed, but they’re not spiritually leading. But 100% of the dads, at least guys who go to church ever are believers. They want to. They’re not saying, “You know what, I know I should be a spiritual leader, but I just don’t care. I’m just not going to do it. Heck with that.” Like we do to the dentist. “I know I should go for that cleaning, but I’m just not going to do it.” For dads, the challenge becomes, we tend to only want to talk about what we’re expert at. Go to a cocktail party, or go to your barbecue at your church. You’re going to talk about some current event, whether it’s whatever happened in Hollywood this week, or whatever happened in the politics, or whatever. That’s what you’re going to talk about. Or you’re going to talk about your job, or what you do for a living, or your golf swing, whatever you’re good at. You tend to avoid all the subjects where you’re not as sharp or smart. Unfortunately, a lot of dads, you, and me, and Eric, same kind of boat, basically, where I didn’t become a believer until I was 21. I didn’t really have any Bible knowledge at all. I remember being surprised there was an old and new Testament. I remember being surprised there were four gospels. I didn’t know anything. I’m 21. I’m in college. That was after 12 years of parochial school in the Catholic system. No offense to the Catholics. It’s not their fault. I just didn’t catch anything that was biblical or scriptural. I had to make up for lost time, kind of like you did. Most dads, I think, are in the same boat where they want to be spiritual leaders. They just don’t quite know how. They feel like they don’t have enough Bible knowledge to be able to do that.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah. Something that helped me was getting involved in a small group with other men. It was, generally speaking, just a hodgepodge of guys from different backgrounds, different experiences, different ages. I really valued some of the older guys that were experiencing becoming a grandfather. They were talking about how they raised their family. It was not over for them, but their kids are gone and developing families of their own. I guess, through being around them, I was just soaking up what practices they did. To follow up on what I read from that chapter, something else along the same theme was, he says doctors don’t … You may rely on your doctor to do something in an emergency. It’s out of your hands. You turn all of that over to that doctor, or braces for your kid. You take him to the orthodontist and you have no part in any of that, but they don’t come to your house and make sure your kids are following a healthy diet. They don’t check their scraped knees. The dentist don’t come over in the morning and make sure that your kids are up and brushing their teeth. That’s us. That’s our responsibility. There is a level of dependency on pastor, on the church, on them being in their own small groups, maybe as they grow up, but that doesn’t absolve us of owning the full responsibility for the spiritual health of our kids.

 

Kent Evans:

I would put it … If you’re listening to this, Dad, and I want you to almost picture me as having a big smile on my face and a very loving visual visage and persona. When I say what I’m about to say, which is if you’re not occasionally, or regularly, imparting biblical wisdom to your children, you’re blowing it as a dad. For real. Okay. Let’s be … It doesn’t mean everybody goes to hell. It doesn’t mean there’s no hope. It just means, look, if your kids … David Platt had a great five-minute video years ago when he first ended up in DC at McLean Bible. He was talking about fathers and mothers. He said, “Dads,” I’m going to paraphrase, but he said, “Dads, if your kids can hit a golf shot, or hit a baseball really far, and they don’t know God’s word, you’re doing it wrong. You’ve got your priorities out of whack.” The things we tend to put above it, might be athletic accomplishment, or academic accomplishment. My kid got into Harvard, or my kid aced the ACT, but I think of the verse, Ephesians six, verse four. A lot of dads know the first half of this verse, but they don’t quite follow it all the way to the end. ‘Fathers, do not provoke your children to anger.’ We’ve heard that before maybe. If you’ve been around church, there’s a limit to what we can lean into our kids’ lives. We don’t want to provoke them to a place where they’re angry or bitter, but the second half of this verse is so important for dads. It says, ‘But bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord.’ Bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. It doesn’t say, bring them up in the discipline of a great fade-away jumper. It doesn’t say, bring them up in the discipline of expert at cryptocurrency and investing. It’s not what it says. It’s not what it says. It says, ‘Bring them up in the discipline and the instruction of the Lord.’ That’s on us, man. It doesn’t say take them to the youth pastor. It doesn’t say, make sure they end up at summer camp, or vacation Bible school. It says, bring them up fathers. It doesn’t even say parents. It says fathers. For us, if you go, “Look, man, if I’m supposed to teach my kid nuclear physics. I know nothing about nuclear physics.” I’d probably be happy if I could spell both of those words. Nuclear and physics. By the way, physics does not start with an F. That’s all I’ve got. Nuclear physics. If that was my job. If God said, “Look, Kent, here’s the thing. As a dad, you must teach your children nuclear physics.” If that’s what he said, then I would have only one choice. Go start learning nuclear physics. I don’t have a choice. I can’t sit out and go, “Well, take him to the physics prof.” No, God said me to do it. Man, dad, I love you. I got that big smile on my face. I’m very happy. This is the happy Kent, but I am exhorting you, saying, “Look, man, we got to teach our kids biblical wisdom.” That’s what Nehemiah did. He knew most of the people. He probably couldn’t even read, and so he had Ezra. We all know Ezra from the old Testament where he went, “Hey, Ezra, read the Bible again. Read the scriptures again.” Ezra would bring out the scrolls and stand in the middle of the square, put them on a wooden thing. He would read the scriptures. Then they had people in the audience who would help them understand it. Nehemiah took this job very, very seriously. That’s one of the reasons why we wanted to make sure we talked about it in the book is because a lot of dads … Either one of two things is true about most dads, Lawson, and they either, number one, they believe it’s somebody else’s job to give their kids biblical instruction. It’s the pastor, it’s the, whatever. That’s one. Or, they just feel like they don’t have enough skill, or knowledge, or expertise to be able to impart this to their children. I get the first group. Come on, it’s our job. We know this. Bible tells us over and over. Second group who feel like they don’t have enough skill, join the club. I’m there too. There are guys who know the Bible way better than Kent Evans, way, way better than Kent Evans, but that doesn’t absolve me of bringing my children up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. That’s my job.

 

Lawson Brown:

I want to get into some practical things that get broken down in chapter 22 here, but I’ll add to what you’re saying there. That is, don’t you want to be a father that is rooted yourself in that, in scripture, in being connected to God, because fatherhood is hard enough. If you can spend time yourself, it soaks into your own brain, it soaks into your soul. You are able to then do what we’re called to do, which is turn around and reiterate it and use it in our fatherhood. What I think is cool about the way Eric did this chapter was he lays out the commands on us as fathers and puts the why behind it, and then breaks down how to do this. Takes away some of, honestly, and some of my case, and some of the guys that I know, it’s a time thing. It’s real easy to lean on, I don’t have enough time. Or, like you said, maybe I don’t know enough. Maybe I haven’t spent enough time really studying. When I say study, I don’t mean just flippantly read. I’m talking about writing things down, using your time in the Bible as if you know you’re going need to close it up and then go teach it. You know what I’m saying? You learn a whole lot more when you’re preparing to go and share that with someone. Then, the fourth thing. I’d like to start back up at the top and break it down. Share what you know. That’s not just with your children, I don’t think. I think it is with your friends, with other people, talk of about it more regularly. It takes a little bit of … It just reinforces it when you hear yourself talking about things and sharing it, and then learning. As you share, you learn from other people, that you can then turn back around and use that internally with your family.

 

Kent Evans:

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Kent Evans:

You and I were talking before the show, Lawson, about some cultural moments that are happening right now. One is, at the time of recording this episode, there is a relatively new war going on in the Ukraine. There’s a lot of news about it, and a lot of stories that are really sad and heartbreaking. What’s very interesting is if we had to, if you and I had to, and the assignment was come up with three biblical perspectives on the war in the Ukraine that we could share with our family. I think that’s easy, right? It might take me a few minutes, but I think that would be fairly easy to do. Sometimes, as you were saying just a second ago, we can weave our biblical conversation into commentary about current events. It doesn’t mean I got to go read every single, cover to cover of the New York times every day, and understand every salacious detail of every single thing going on. There’s the war happening right now. We could talk about mans inhumanity demand, or the struggle for power, or the truth is rarely what you read in media outlets, or the courageousness or bravery of people, or helping your neighbor in a time of need. There would be so many theme we could pull out of that, that I’ll have tons of biblical connection, that we could as dads just bring up with our older kids and say, “Hey, what do you think about what’s going on over Ukraine?” Our kids can have … We can have a conversation about generosity. I saw where, as part of the effort to try to help people in the Ukraine, Airbnb waived their fees and said, “Hey, book a room, and somewhere in the Ukraine on Airbnb, and all the money you pay will flow straight through to the homeowner.” We did that. I booked a two nights stay in Keve that, we’re not going to Keve, but I booked a couple nights and a couple hundred bucks went into somebody’s pocket. Now, there’s lots of ways you could look at that and go, “Was that smart? Responsible? Are they good guys or bad guys?” I don’t know. I tried my best to do some due diligence, but at the end, you can have conversations about generosity, or benevolence, or perseverance. These are all themes we see in scripture. Sometimes, the news gives us ample opportunity to have conversations with our kids.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah. That’s a good point. I hadn’t thought about it like that, but yeah, there’s plenty of topics that you can weave in. You don’t have to, as a dad, sit with a blank sheet of paper and try to come up with like, “All right. How am I going to use what I’m learning in the Bible to impart something in my kids?” But, I want to underpin part of this conversation with, you’ve got to spend your time. You’ve got to carve it out. You’ve got to make this a purposeful activity in your own life. What I believe, I’ve seen happen in my own life, is when you set a goal and you start with some huge, either really audacious thing, or a really long list, it generally Peter’s out, but if you start with just one simple step, one thing, and that is what Eric describes. He says, “Create a time and a space.” Find a space and spend 10 minutes. Set yourself a goal of 10 minutes and spend that time, read for five minutes, and then pray about what you read for five minutes. That’s it. You don’t have to come up with a lesson plan. You don’t have to determine a strategic how you’re going to take the Bible apart over the course of a year. Don’t worry about that, dude. Just start with 10 minutes, read for five, pray for five about what you read, and then trust that God and the topic is going to come together with the right timing of the right kid in your family. That’s okay. It’s about starting.

 

Kent Evans:

Yeah. One of the metaphors I’ve liked to use over the years about Bible study is the idea of a cup, or a pitcher that’s full or empty. If I’m spending time in God’s word and my cup is full, as my children encounter life and have things come up, I’ve got this cup. I can pour it out on the moment. On the moment.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah, I see what you’re saying. I like that.

 

Kent Evans:

If there’s a challenge at school … For example, if there’s a challenge with a teacher, and a teacher’s being harsh, or difficult, and my child comes home and says, “Oh, so and so made it really hard this week, or today.” It’s easy for me to go down the path of, “Oh, I’ll call that teacher and give her a piece of my mind.” That is the wrong response, 99 times out of a hundred. The right response, for most of us, is to go, “Interesting. Do you feel as though you were perhaps sinned against?” Our child will stop and go, “Well, I don’t know if I’d say sinned.” “Okay. Then what are we saying here? Were you inconvenienced? Were you frustrated? What happened?” We start to unpack. We’re going to end up at a place where we find a place like in Proverbs. It says, ‘A wise man overlooks in a fence.’ We’re going to be able to find our way back to that place where we go, “Okay. Were you offended?” “Maybe.” “Oh, awesome. What would maybe someone like the savior of the world have done when he was offended?” We’ve got plenty of places to pull from, and here’s the cool part. If I’m walking around with my cup already full, then I don’t necessarily need to create family [divo 00:26:51] time. I’m not saying family [divos 00:26:52] are bad. Do family [divos 00:26:54]. Make its every Sunday, every night, every Tuesday, whatever you want to do. I’m just saying, I want to be like a ready [divo 00:27:00] guy. Ready [divo 00:27:01], where they bring to me a problem that’s relational. Or they bring to me a problem that is, whatever it is. At some point in our conversation, I’m going to land on some Bible verse, or some Bible theme. Even if I don’t know the verse, I know Jesus said forgive your enemies. I know he said that somewhere. I don’t have to know after and verse, but I can pull my kids back to that place of, “So gosh, are we supposed to forgive this person?” All of a sudden, the normal everyday family stuff becomes an opportunity to share something that’s biblical.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah. To be able to share you got to be ready. Something that I think has stood out to me again was God’s way of speaking to me through his word without his word being physically present, meaning, you’re not just at all times, through all 18 waking hours of the day, walking around with your Bible in your hand, open, ready to …

 

Kent Evans:

18? Why are you only sleeping six hours a night Lawson? That’s not okay.

 

Lawson Brown:

Really? It’s what we get.

 

Kent Evans:

You need to get a little more sleep. You’re an empty nester. You should be sleeping forever.

 

Lawson Brown:

I know. Well, I don’t know about that, but I was thinking yesterday morning, no matter what, I’m just up at 6:30. Somewhere in the sixes. I got the day off. In fact, I took this week off. I’ve yet to sleep past 7:00 AM. Man, come on.

 

Kent Evans:

I can’t even do it if I want to!

 

Lawson Brown:

But, my point is, memorizing scripture. Let’s go back. Read the Bible every day. Take five minutes. That’s all we’re saying. Five minutes. And then pray about it. Pick a short little one-sentence scripture and burn it into your brain. I promise you God will use that. You will come across an opportunity where you don’t have to have his word physically present because it’s burned into your brain. It’s seared onto your heart. With that knowledge, you will be able to father better. You will be able to be more ready in those moments because you’ve got God’s word on your heart.

 

Kent Evans:

You can even take up questions you have about scripture to the dinner table. In other words, it doesn’t always have to be some kind of teaching thing where you say, “Okay, I will now break apart the Greek and Hebrew. I will now tell you about this theological point.” It can sometimes be, “Man, I’m really having trouble reconciling this idea of forgiving your enemies and my jerk boss,” or whatever. There can be times when, and I think it’s really healthy for you to just process scripture with your family and say, “What do you think about that? What do you think about this scripture? What do you think about this time? What do you think about this situation?” You got to make it age-appropriate and all that, but still, I think sometimes one of the things that holds dads back is we believe we’ve got to be the 100% Bible answer man, where any question that may ever come up, we have a lock tight theologically grounded …

 

Lawson Brown:

That’s daunting. That’s too heavy, man.

 

Kent Evans:

Oh my word!

 

Lawson Brown:

That’s just like, forget about it.

 

Kent Evans:

Forget about it. Dad, here’s what Lawson and I both want to encourage you to do. Let’s learn from the lesson of Nehemiah. He proclaimed God’s word regularly. He made it accessible to the people. He had Ezra read it aloud. You’re going to see later, if you keep reading through the book of Nehemiah, you’re going to see how he governed, and that he honored the Sabbath, which was right out of scripture. He only had so much right of the scriptures. We’ve got way more than he had because of the amount of time that we got all the new Testament that he didn’t have access to at that time. We have that. Dad, again, back with my very happy smiling face on, as nice as I can say it, if you don’t feel comfortable bringing biblical instruction into your home, let’s find you a way to getting comfortable. That may be true today, but that doesn’t have to be true in a month, or a year, or in five years. Let’s begin working together on getting you to a place where you can proclaim God’s word regularly, just like in Ephesians 6:4. Fathers don’t provoke your children to anger, but bring them up in the discipline and instruction of the Lord. Nehemiah was a great example of how to do this for a community of people. Dad, get after it, and go bone up if you have to. Lawson and I will be trying to help you with our content as much as we can. Lawson, thanks for joining in on this conversation today, brother. It’s been really fun.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah, man. Here’s the end of the chapter. To proclaim it, you got to know it. Spend time in God’s word. It will change your life and the life of your kids. Let’s go be those kinds of dads.

 

Kent Evans:

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Outro:

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