Disciple Your Kids, Don’t Just Raise Them

Show Transcripts:

Voiceover:

Welcome to the Father on Purpose Podcast, featuring author and ministry leader, Kent Evans, and business executive and military veteran, Lawson Brown. This is a show for you, dad. You want to be a godly and intentional father. Unfortunately, you’ve turned to these two knuckleheads for help. Let us know how that works out for you. Before we begin, remember this, you are not a father on accident. So go be a father on purpose. Please welcome your hosts, Kent and Lawson.

 

Kent Evans:

Hey dad. Welcome to the podcast. Lawson and Kent here. Eager, well, not eager, but willing, willing, willing to wrap up a series. I don’t want to say eager, because it sounds like, oh man, thank God, that’s over. It’s not that.

 

Lawson Brown:

Oh, I thought you were like, we’re not really eager to be here.

 

Kent Evans:

Oh no. I’m thrilled to be here. This is going to be fantastic.

 

Lawson Brown:

I was like, what? Where is he going with this intro?

 

Kent Evans:

The best part, for those of you who’ve never seen a podcast and how it’s made in the kitchen, there’s very little that goes on before we hit the record button. Hey, how’s it going? How’s the family? Okay. Y’all ready. Let’s go.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah.

 

Kent Evans:

We figure it out from there. No, there’s a little more intentionality than that. Today [crosstalk 00:01:18].

 

Lawson Brown:

But I know what you mean, we’re not eager to end this [crosstalk 00:01:21].

 

Kent Evans:

No.

 

Lawson Brown:

… seven part mini series. I agree.

 

Kent Evans:

It’s been a great mini series. It’s based on our ebook called Survival Gear: Seven Must-Have Tools that the Godly Dad Needs on His Journey. We’ve covered things like knowing scripture, building relationships, praying, you name it. If you want, go back six or seven episodes and start listening around episode 10 or 11, and you pick up that series. This is the last of the seven things, we’ll cover that in a moment. Before we get there Lawson, a huge shout out to our listeners. We’ve had the podcast going now, this is episode 19 that we’re recording now, it’ll come out in the middle of November the year we’re recording it. And so far we’ve had over 15, 1600, if I added the numbers that Hunter gave us right on the in, before we got on, downloads, which is great, man, we’re super thrilled with that number and would ask you, hey dad, if the podcast is it all worth sharing? If you enjoy it, if you feel like we touch on a subject that’s relevant, or maybe if Lawson says something intelligent. And I mean, because I sure won’t. So if Lawson says something intelligent, feel free to let your friends know, let your uncle know, let your brother-in-law know, that guy who cuts your hair at the barbershop, you could let him know. Yeah, just make sure he is not listening to the podcast while cutting your hair. You could end up with a baldhead like Lawson. You need to see that to believe it. What we’re going to talk about today, Lawson, is as we close out the series on the Seven Must-Have Tools Every Dad Needs, the last one is called make disciples. And the reason we wanted to end the seven part series with that, and the reason we wanted to put that at the end of the ebook is because it’s almost not like a culmination like, you’ve graduated to some level, because I don’t want to put it in that light because it could cause a dad to go, well, I’ll do that in 20 years when I’m perfect.

 

Lawson Brown:

Right.

 

Kent Evans:

However, it is, in some ways, a compilation of the other things we’re talking about. So if you’re building relationships, if you’re stewarding resources, if you’re praying, if you know God’s word, as you’re doing those six things [crosstalk 00:03:34].

 

Lawson Brown:

Right. It comes together.

 

Kent Evans:

… guess what? It does come together. So, I don’t want the dad to hear this and go, well, I got to get all these six boxes checked perfectly in order to do the seventh. No, we do it as we go, as we go. Even G said, as you’re going, as you go out, make disciples. So Lawson, as we dive into this topic, I think one great thing that you could take us through, you could add to the mix, is I feel like, you and I have known each other about 20 years, plus or minus, and I feel like you’ve done this both as one being discipled, but also you’ve taken guys under your wing. That may, or may not be like, you’re taking them on a missionary journey across the AGNC or whatever, but you’ve poured into guys who are farther behind where you are both spiritually and even also in a professional context. Tell us a little bit about your journey as you’ve walked through both being discipled by other guys, but also as you have explored your capacity to disciple others, both inside your own home, your daughters, as well as in the workplace and church, just give me some thoughts, man, get us started.

 

Lawson Brown:

Most of it has been, on the receiving end, has been through friends who probably began in a similar place on our journey, and we maybe had the good fortune of having someone, I’m remembering back to early on for me, I’ve mentioned him before, Murphy Belting, and because of where I was, I was reaching out and looking around for some help, Murphy showed up and then in my walk, in my journey, I also happened to lock elbows with a couple of other cool dudes and we marched on together. I also remember early on, I don’t remember who probably pointed me in this direction, I doubt it was of my own, but it was of the, I guess the mindset of, look, the best way to learn is to learn it with the mindset of that you were going to also then teach. So you pay closer attention and that sort of thing. And what I mean by this is in context of, I also got encouraged to become a, I think they called him a D group, which was a disciple group of young freshmen, they would partner up a dad with a small group of freshman high school, young men. And we would meet every week. There was a program we followed along, this wasn’t on me, I was one of many what they call D group leaders. And so while I was learning, I was learning with the mindset of I’m going to use this to turn around and do what’s being done for me with others. And then, that kept evolving over years. I keep in touch with some of these young dudes that I was together with them, gosh, way, way back when, and now they’re dads. And so that’s been super cool. And as a father with only daughters, not only daughters, but with daughters only, to have some young men like that as peripheral influencers, that’s been rewarding. And then I’ve also been shepherded myself through being a men’s group guy, and part of a group that was led by someone. So it’s that, but outside of that context, it sounds like all I’ve done, or most of what has been done has been in a sit around a circle kind of group inside a church. And that is true, that’s a lot of it, but it’s also been riding down the road, calling up a buddy and just struggling through some stuff together. And knowing that I’m calling them with throwing out a lifeline in their direction, wanting their help, and it wasn’t just, hey, I need to work on this one specific thing in my life, it was, I don’t feel like I’m as connected to my faith as I want to be, or maybe going, something in our family that we were going through. And so how do I get back? It wasn’t, hey, I’m lacking in this one specific skill, or this one specific thing. It was generally a navigation of the current environment and not feeling as connected to God as I wanted, knowing that, that would be the ultimate, I guess, the ultimate lifeline, or the biggest way to get through it, best way to get through it.

 

Kent Evans:

It’s interesting you bring that up because sometimes I think one of the challenges with the whole concept of making disciples is it doesn’t feel completely tangible. If I said, hey, man, I’ve got to learn how to do a spreadsheet, or I’ve got to learn how to hit a golf ball, or whatever I’ve got to do, I go find somebody to help. In fact, the guy Hunter who helps produce our podcast, he can hit a golf ball a hundred yards farther than I can on target. And so [crosstalk 00:08:56].

 

Lawson Brown:

Wow. I didn’t know that.

 

Kent Evans:

… if I wanted to learn that specific skill, man, wouldn’t he’d be great guy to learn from, and we’d know the context, we’d know the setting, here’s a ball, here’s the, we played in a scramble a couple weeks ago and I told Hunter, I said, “You and I have very different objectives when it comes to golf.” I said, “You’re trying to make the ball go in a one foot circle up there on that green thing, I’m just trying to get it really far from where I’m currently standing.” I want to hit it, and wherever I measure, it’s really far from where I am now, where it went, I don’t really care as much directionally, but he’s trying to hit a silver dollar up on the green. And so what’s interesting though is when we’re in this context of making disciples, I want to give dads some hope, but also a good healthy challenge. The hope is good news, good news. You already are making disciples, it’s happening. If you have kids in your home, guess what? You’re disciples. Why is that? Because at its purest form, making disciples is nothing else than essentially going in a direction and having people follow your direction.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah.

 

Kent Evans:

So guess what? If you are really ate up with money worries, you’re making disciples because now your kids will be ate up with money worries. If you’re really kind to your wife, guess what? Your kids are probably going to be kind to their spouse, or at least pick some of that up. So the good news and the bad news is, if I ever have a dad come up to me and say, hey man, how can I make disciples? I always just say, hey, you already are. So the real question becomes what? So where are we going? Where are we going? Often we want something really specific. So, I’m teaching my kid how to get a 31 on the ACT, or something very, very specific, measurable and tangible, but unfortunately the process of making disciples is a lot more fluid and a lot more holistic. If you think Jesus had 11 or 12 around him, and then he had the 70 and the 300, he had different groups of people around him. If we could drop ourselves back into the first century and go, hey, what all are you teaching them? The answer would be everything. I’m basically trying to teach them how to live life, how to value people, how to know God’s word, how to cast out demons. There’s a lot I’m to teach these people, and it basically touches every aspect of their life where sometimes we want to break it down into really simple buckets. And that’s not always, it’s not always possible. I want to be careful not to say, there is not a prescription to follow exactly along, there is great value in what I was describing earlier in these small groups that are programmed and you’re following along, and maybe there’s some structure to it, but for me, my daughters and I probably, we got more out of the short road trip together, or a walk, I find God in nature, and Olivia and I took this four night, five day hike on the Appalachian Trail, just she and I, and the talks that came from that, and I’m talking about God, about each other, about growing up, that was completely unprescribed, I was following no program, but it did take time, spending time together, and there are moments that I specifically can, this has been 10 years ago. I specifically remember exact places and exact little moments where she and I just had a special bond created, just one additional little click together that happened among thousands over our lifetimes.

 

Lawson Brown:

But there’s something special when you, the dad, set out to, with a purpose, you design in some time together with that purpose in mind of building your relationship with that person, whether it’s your daughter, or your son, or your wife, or your friend, I guess it’s somewhere between real rigid prescription and completely unscripted and no plan.

 

Kent Evans:

Right. Well, and to your point, a lot of guys are, I hope this podcast helps dads figure out that our primary role is to spiritually discipline our children. When it comes to discipleship in our family, our primary role with our kids is to spiritually disciple them, not just to disciple them in the art of the job interview, or disciple them in the art of how to change a tire, or tie a bow tie, or rebalance their 401k. Those are things that are not unimportant, I’m not saying those things are unimportant. What I’m saying is, man, my focus, my focus as a dad is to help my kids grow in the fear and admonition of the Lord. That’s my focus. It doesn’t mean I do it all day every day, I don’t remember ever having a breakfast or a lunch, and I just said, okay, son, sit down. I’m going to discipline you right now, it’s not a thing that happens over waffles because you said it would, but it indirectly happens over waffles, that’s the point, is that we’re designed as disciple making machines one way or the other. We’re either discipling them in things that are just adrift, because we are adrift, or we’re discipling them intentionally because we are intentional. I remember not too long ago, I was having a conversation with one of my sons and the conversation was getting a little testy, getting a little argumentative, and I just held up the timeout sign, I was calling the timeout and I just said, “Hey, wait a minute. We’re getting off track. Let me come back to something.” And he said, “Okay, what’s that?” And I said, “You think this conversation is about me changing your behavior in an area, a specific area.” And I said, “I’m actually up to something quite a bit different than that.” And he goes, “Okay, what’s that?” And I said, “I need you to learn how to hear and receive feedback. So for example, even if your behavior doesn’t change in this area, this kind of MO of this conversation feeling like it’s a tennis match where we’re each firing the ball back and forth, and it’s like these winners down the line, like wham, wham, wham, whoa, timeout. I need you to set your racket down and I’m going to gently lob the ball over and I need you to catch it and just stand there having caught it.”

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah. That’s a good word [crosstalk 00:15:44].

 

Kent Evans:

I don’t even care if you change your behavior, but I’m not trying to convince you to stop doing that thing, I’m trying to teach you how to give and receive feedback, because that my friend is a life skill. And I just remember that moment, on our deck outside where we get so hung up on, well, you’re going to get good grades, or you’re not going to talk to your mom like that, or you’re going to stop dating that girl, or whatever the thing is at the moment when really, really what we need to be building in them is the reflex of how to have a challenge, how to come seek out wisdom and how to listen to wisdom, that may or may not bring you change instantly, but I just remember a moment where it opened for me and I’m like, oh, my word, that’s basically what I’m trying to teach him to do. And I’m not saying one thing was the discipleship moment of his teenage life. What I’m saying is I knew that’s what I was up to. As a dad, I knew I wasn’t just trying to affect Tuesday’s behavior, I was trying to teach him a school.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah, you stepped out of the current situation, and were thinking beyond just this one particular moment. I think that’s a big part of discipleship making, is having the end in mind as we’ve talked about before. Doesn’t mean you’ve got it all figured out, but you are assessing where you are, you are assessing where they are, you are trying to put, like we’ve talked about before in this survival gear series is, you’ve got to get from point A to point B first, establish where point A is, where you are, and define point B. Another thing I want to talk about is what did Jesus say about not making disciples, but how did he describe his disciples? What does a disciple look like? So I’m excited about this topic. I want to get into it more, but I do want to think, I wonder, could we back up just a bit and start with, what are we talking about? What is a disciple? And if someone isn’t already going down that journey, maybe they’re hearing this early on, or maybe their children, or their friends aren’t there yet, and they aren’t really sure what being, or making a disciple looks like. Maybe we can start there.

 

Kent Evans:

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Kent Evans:

So yeah, Lawson, as we were talking, we dove in real quick. As we take a step back and we look at this idea of discipleship, especially if we see it in the context of the early church, as Jesus came down and was really the first Christian disciple maker, obviously he’s the author and perfecter of our faith, and how he did it is how we ought to model and how we do it. Essentially you’d have a rabbi in the first century and that rabbi would have followers and they would say, I am a follower of, and they would say, I’m a follower of rabbi X or rabbi Y. And what that meant was I adhere to their doctrine, I think the way they think, or I’m at least trying to learn how to think the way they think. And it also meant I’m going to spend a lot of time with them. So if I were a disciple of rabbi X, I would try to spend as much time as I could with rabbi X, and there’s formal study and informal behavior and all kinds of stuff that went into the discipleship. And that’s the context in which Jesus comes down.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah, I was going to ask, does that mean, could you substitute, or is the word disciple synonymous with study, like I am a studier of?

 

Kent Evans:

I think it’s a partial description. So in other words, absolutely, I’m a studier of, but disciple means something even deeper than that. So for example, I could go study Picasso all day, and I could understand Picasso really well, and I could see his paintings and be able to describe them, be able to articulate when he painted that one, where he was, all that. However, have I picked up the brush and tried to replicate one of his paintings? I remember one time I was in the Louvre Museum in Paris, France, and there’s a guy sitting in one of the hallways with a big canvas and he was painting a painting of a painting. So he’s sitting in the middle of the Louvre Museum with his [oss 00:21:15] gear. And I guess this is something they do all the time over there.

 

Lawson Brown:

Now I would not think that you’re, I would’ve thought someone’s like, hey bro, what do you think [crosstalk 00:21:23].

 

Kent Evans:

No, no.

 

Lawson Brown:

… you’re doing? You’re in the Louvre.

 

Kent Evans:

Clearly, he was authorized, and he was there with his own canvas on a stool, painting a painting of a painting up on the wall. And I thought, now there’s a good picture of a disciple in a sense, not only is he studying the painting, but he’s trying to live it out, he’s trying to do one himself. And so for sure, the idea of a disciple includes studying, but it’s not only that. In fact, the bigger piece of it is do I behave like that guy behaves? Do I believe, do I walk the same road? It literally means follower. So physically, if I wanted to illustrate discipleship, I’d get up in this library. I’m recording this podcast and I’d walk across the library and have somebody walk behind me. And that’s the most visceral picture we have of discipleship. And so let’s go back. First century, Jesus comes down and he spends years with the guys he’s trying to discipline. They do almost everything together. They live together. They sleep together. They eat together. They go to the same synagogues. They listen to the same preachers on the street, they interact with people, and he would occasionally pick one or two of them and say, hey, come with me, I want you to see this thing happen. I want you to see how I handle this situation.

 

Lawson Brown:

So good. Yep.

 

Kent Evans:

And so much of discipleship was just, this is a word by the way, it was osmotic, I looked it up [crosstalk 00:22:46].

 

Lawson Brown:

Oh boy.

 

Kent Evans:

… a few weeks ago to get ready for today.

 

Lawson Brown:

Here we go.

 

Kent Evans:

It was picked up through osmosis. You couldn’t say out loud, hey Lawson, I’m going to be nice on this podcast, and I want you to be nice too. I’m just going to try to be nice on it and then you will figure it out.

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah.

 

Kent Evans:

So what’s interesting for me is as a dad, as a dad, we think, man, what are all the things in which I need to discipline my kids? And man, that could be a really long list, that could be a very long list. So then what happens in our modern context where we’re really time strapped, not that people back then weren’t times strapped, but in today’s fast paced world we start to take shortcuts in areas we shouldn’t take shortcuts. So we’ll have a child who comes out at age 18 and they know how to drive, they know how to pay their taxes, they know how to do the societal things that says make you an adult. They can find the place to put an address on an envelope and properly mail something, the things they learn that are skill based things, but the question we got to ask ourselves as Tedd Tripp asked in the book, Shepherding a Child’s Heart, are we discipling their hearts? So, if we stack them up, if you were to come to my house and say to my 17 year old son, who’s currently still living at home, and as he is going through high school, and you were to ask him, hey, what have you learned from your dad? Man, what an interesting question that would be. And what [crosstalk 00:24:19].

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah, that’s a whole episode.

 

Kent Evans:

Right. And so I don’t know what all he would say, but I hope mixed in there, I hope mixed in there, he’d say something about a faith in Christ and knowledge of God’s word, and prioritizing going to church, or loving your wife, being a kind husband. I don’t know that he would say all that, but man, I sure would love for him to say that stuff. And I’d rather, I’d rather him say that stuff right than, he spent a lot of time with me recently on Roth IRAs, and why they’re a better investment than, wow, that’s not evil, it’s not evil. It’s just secondary. And so I hope what, if anything, I hope what dads get out of today’s podcast is, dad, as we’re walking through life, we want to be discipling our children, and guess what? We already are, no question, the discipling is happening. The only question is, are we intentionally discipling them in a Godward direction? Are we discipling them in a worldly direction? That’s the question we’re all going to have to wrestle with over time, and we’re going to do it imperfectly. This is not about perfection. Occasionally I’ll get guys who pull me aside and go, you can’t be a perfect father. And I’m like, yeah, I know, but I’m still not going to stop trying, I’m not going to try to become a perfect dad, but just because I can’t become a perfect dad doesn’t mean I won’t be intentional. I had a boss one time who used to say, “Let’s not let perfection become the enemy of excellence.” And I loved that phrase. It’s a great phrase, I’m going to strive for excellence as a dad knowing full well I’m going to get it wrong every day somehow, but take me back Lawson to this idea as we’re making disciples, really, you mentioned, as we were headed to the break you mentioned this idea of point A to point B. And I think part of what we miss as dads is that we really don’t know what point B looks like. We can know where we are, but we’re not totally sure where we’re going.

 

Lawson Brown:

So we began this talking about, we are, as dads, we are leaders of our family and part of the, well, the whole survival gear thing began with you talking about, all right, let’s imagine we walk into a room and there’s a table in this room, and on this table, there are things that we are going to put into our backpack, and one of them is a compass, and one of them is a flashlight, which is God’s word. One of them is a set of matches. And those matches represent relationship building around in the concept of this visual of campfire. Well, the reason that we are doing that is because we are on a journey, and our children, our family are following us. And so, I think the thing to ask ourselves as dads for you guys that are out there driving down the road listening to this, or maybe on a jog listening to this, like I do sometimes with different ones, or just sitting around maybe having a relaxing moment, we really hope that this series has given you some things to work with in your own life, but I think what we’ve all got to continually ask ourselves is how are we leading and where are we going? Because you have followers, and like Chip Ingram said in his book, “The decisions that we make have a lasting impact on our family,” something like that. And so like it, or not, as a father you have disciples, you have these people that are following you and their lives are depending on the choices that you make. So make sure that as you are gathering your backpack and you’re putting into it these pieces of the survival gear, as we’ve talked about these last six or seven times, I guess ask yourself, do you know where you’re going? And if you don’t, I would advise go back and grab those matches, get some relationships around you and your family that you think could help you, dive into God’s word, which is the light into our feet, and continue to pray fervently. And God will answer. God will be with you. If you are following him, your children following you, that’s all you got to worry about.

 

Kent Evans:

And the picture we use in the Survival Gear booklet Lawson is the picture of rope for making disciples. And the reason we chose that is because it’s the concept that I’m going to tie myself to somebody else. You think often of mountain climbers, and one of the things that they do is they either anchor into the rock so that if they fall an anchor will catch them, or they will connect themselves in a series of elaborate loops and ropes with other climbers so that if any one guy slips, that weight is distributed and the other climbers all catch him or her at the same time. And so it’s a safety issue, and it’s also a following issue. So the question is, man, if we’re connected by the rope and you’re heading up the mountain, I’m going to follow you whether I like it or not, it’s the only way up is if we’re connected by rope, I got to follow where you’ve led. And the idea behind discipling is we are out in front to a degree in the spiritual sense, and we have people following behind us. And as a dad, that’s happening whether we know it or not, whether we believe it or not, whether we’re being intentional or not, it’s happening. And so the good news is you are already discipling. Congratulations. The challenge may be are you content with whether you believe you’re discipling in the right direction? So our encouragement to you today is, dad, as you finish up this series on survival gear, what you’re undoubtedly going to notice like Lawson and I both know this, you don’t have to email us, we already know this. None of us have all of the gear packed perfectly away. We all have our fatherhood backpack that might be missing a thing or two, or the rope might be frayed, or the flashlight needs new batteries. There’s no question that none of us have the fatherhood skill pack all perfectly neatly packed. However, knowing what we’re trying to pack in there is half the battle, is half the battle. So dad, as we’ve walked through this idea of knowing God’s word and praying and building relationships, all the things we’ve talked about, don’t forget, tie yourself to some people, that may be your own children, for sure, I hope so. I hope that you’re making disciples in your home and you’re doing that intentionally. It may also be other dads, some who are a little bit further up the rock face than you are. Some who are a little further down the rock face than you are. Some who are just beginning their journey as a dad. So not only might you be discipling under your own roof, you may be discipling some other dads in the process. And man, I would talk forever. I’ve written a whole book on it, I’ll write more books on it. The idea that other men have so deeply impacted my life, that over the years I am a disciple E of dozens and dozens of men on earth who’ve poured into me, and I’m super grateful for them. So I hope dad that today’s podcast has been encouraging to you, and also challenging in this area of making disciples. And we know we bid this topic a fond farewell as we put it into the archives, into the golden box of archived, I’m pretending we have a golden box of archived podcast episodes, like we file them away. It’s not really how it works. However, if we did have a box, we’d put this in there.

 

Lawson Brown:

Oh boy.

 

Kent Evans:

And as we wrap it up, as we wrap it up, I hope that where you’ve landed on this topic, dad, is you’re committed to wanting to head out on this journey, to continually refresh the equipment. And if you want some help in that regard, two things I would mention as we land this plane today, one is this ebook is free. You can come to our website and get it, it’s at manhoodjourney.org/survival-gear. I think we’ve also got it promoted on some of the pages. So, you would have a hard time not finding it. It’s manhood journey.org/survival-gear. You can come snag the free ebook if you want to dive in deeper. And Lawson, you may not know this, but we have a godly father assessment on our website where you can take a quiz, 28 question survey, to figure out where you are on your godly father journey, and it mirrors these seven things we’ve been talking about for the last seven or eight weeks. And you can self-evaluate yourself across these seven areas. And we just looked last week, I think, and there have been about 910 dads who have taken that survey and that assessment. So go take the godly father assessment, also is on our website, or you could go to manhoodjourney.org/assessment/assessment, and snag a free assessment so you can figure out where you are right now, and how to make meaningful next steps in your journey to being a godly father. We hope this podcast series has blessed you. Lawson and I have had a blast doing it. Tune in next week [crosstalk 00:33:45].

 

Lawson Brown:

Yeah. This was good.

 

Kent Evans:

… as we talk about a brand new topic, a brand new topic, which will make up when we take this short break, God bless you. We’ll see you next week.

 

Kent Evans:

Hey dad, thank you for listening to today’s show. If you found this episode helpful, remember you can get all the content and show notes at manhoodjourney.org/podcast. And if you really liked it, please consider doing three things. Number one, share this podcast with someone, you can hit the share button in your app, wherever you listen to the podcast, or just call a person up and tell them to listen in. Number two, subscribe to this podcast so you get episodes automatically that helps us as well to help dads find the show. You can do that through your favorite listening app, whatever that is. And finally review this podcast, leave us a review, good or bad, wherever you listen. Those reviews also help other dads find the show. You can always learn more about what we’re up to at manhoodjourney.org, or fatheronpurpose.org. We will see you next week.

 

Voiceover:

You’ve been dozing off to the Father on Purpose Podcast, featuring Kent Evans and Lawson Brown. Now wake up, head over to fatheronpurpose.org for more tools that can help you be a godly intentional and not completely horrible dad. Remember you are not a father on accident. So go be a father on purpose.